From xeubie@hotmail.com Sun Mar 07 15:27:47 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: xeubie@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 73723 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2004 23:27:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2004 23:27:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.75) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2004 23:27:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.140] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2004 23:27:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:27:40 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 716 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.75 From: "la_okus" X-Originating-IP: 69.162.47.2 Subject: Re: translating the -ism's X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=170795535 X-Yahoo-Profile: la_okus X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21664 --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, "Craig" wrote: > >> I use krici for belief system (creed). > > >krici [ kri ] believe > >x1 believes [without evidence/proof] belief/creed x2 (du'u) is true/ > >assumed about subject x3 > > >Judging by this definition, krici seems closer to "faith" than > >"ideology". > > How about "birti"? birti [ bit ] certain x1 is certain/sure/positive/convinced that x2 is true Well, perhaps a birti girzu could be a collection of things you are sure about, but I think there are better ways to express the concept of an ism. Does birti have to be 100% certainty, or just a basic certainty one gets after reviewing sufficient evidence? mu'o mi'e .okus.