From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Mar 11 10:32:50 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69051 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2004 18:32:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2004 18:32:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2004 18:32:48 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B1Uz3-0007IC-AH for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:32:41 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B1Uxi-0007Ak-0C; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:31:18 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B1UxY-0007AB-Vk for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:31:08 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:31:08 -0800 Message-ID: <20040311183108.GV11847@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7204 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: pronouncing ? as th X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21679 On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 04:40:01AM -0000, la_okus wrote: > Then I read on the wiki that .kreig.daniyl. pronounces it as `th' in > `think'. I find that this sound can be made much more quickly, > allowing me to zip over the "ba'o" of ba'orzu'e to make ba'orZU'e. Unlike the other two people who have responded, this doesn't bother me in the least, and I doubt it would make you any harder to understand for me. > As a side effect, my lojban sounds a lot more like tolkien's > beautiful elvish languages. To me it just sounds like you have a lisp or something. 8) > I am making this thread to ask what you all think of my decision. Will > lojban split into an assortment of accents, and if so, won't this > happen anyway when lojban gains more speakers outside the US? One would hope so; it was rather designed that way. > PS. While I'm here, I'd like to clear up something about stress. In > the lujvo "dadysli", is it pronounced dadYsli or DADysli? Does that > little schwa get counted? IIRC, 'y' is never counted for purposes of stress. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui