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Subject: [lojban] pronouncing =?iso-8859-1?Q?=91?= as th
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The usual pronunciation of the omnipresent apostrophe has 
been described as the airy glide between the words "oh hello". I, 
as an American English speaker, find this to take too long and 
too much energy to say. The result is that ugly lujvo like ba'orzu'e 
sort of split apart and get pronounced as BA'orZU'e, being 
stressed in two places.

Then I read on the wiki that .kreig.daniyl. pronounces it as `th' in 
`think'. I find that this sound can be made much more quickly, 
allowing me to zip over the "ba'o" of ba'orzu'e to make ba'orZU'e. 
As a side effect, my lojban sounds a lot more like tolkien's 
beautiful elvish languages. I realize that many people cannot 
make this sound, which is why lojban's designers did good to 
allow many alternative pronunciations. I am trying to invent some 
airy version of the `th' sound so as to minimize the weirdness 
when talking to other lojbanists.

I am making this thread to ask what you all think of my decision. 
Will lojban split into an assortment of accents, and if so, won't 
this happen anyway when lojban gains more speakers outside 
the US? Mind you that the lojban r is not limited to the American 
English pronunciation, but also the trilled or french r.

mu'o mi'e .okus.

PS. While I'm here, I'd like to clear up something about stress. In 
the lujvo "dadysli", is it pronounced dadYsli or DADysli? Does 
that little schwa get counted?


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