From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Mar 30 09:00:37 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 3729 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2004 17:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2004 17:00:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2004 17:00:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B8Mah-0004YL-B2 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:59:55 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B8MZp-0003qZ-Vw; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:59:02 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from thestonecutters.net ([63.251.19.112] helo=chert.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B8MZd-0003lL-GV for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:58:49 -0800 Received: from thestonecutters.net (p78-77.acedsl.com [66.114.78.77]) by chert.thestonecutters.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DAD148005 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:54:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4069A745.6090705@thestonecutters.net> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:58:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040330103207.03075ec0@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040330103207.03075ec0@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-archive-position: 7406 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: xod Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net Subject: [lojban] Re: Just Bizarre (offical parser stuff) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21880 Bob LeChevalier wrote: >At 07:25 PM 3/29/04 -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >>$ echo "mi troci le nu bapli le za'i le kagni poi ponse le skami pe la >>duramater ku ku ku le nu cpacu la paitn" | parser >>3;0;00moi ke lojbo genturfa'i >>Copyright 1991,1992,1993 The Logical Languages Group, Inc. All Rights >>Reserved >>(mi {troci <[(le {nu KEI} ku) (le {nu >>KEI} KU)] VAU>}) >> >> >>That's just *wierd*. It ate like 80% of the sentence without a trace. >> >> > >I don't know why the stuff disappeared, but the sentence is ungrammatical >(and the YACC parser has never been good at telling people why something is >bad - it just tries to recover; the 2.33 parser was somewhat more robust at >this than the 3.0 parser, as I recall). When something weird happens, I >break it into pieces, and in this case it was easy to find a problem. > >The le za'i abstraction has no selbri that I can tell; the third ku >terminates it and probably confuses the parser. > > > I suppose this accounts for why there is a vau kei ku after nu bapli. -- "The war was supposed to be quick. We were supposed to be greeted as liberators. It was to pay for itself with oil revenues. And we were supposed to find chemical and biological weapons." Col. Sam Gardiner USAF-retired, National Defense University