From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Mar 29 15:05:30 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47738 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2004 23:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Mar 2004 23:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2004 23:05:27 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B85or-0000XA-Nm for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:05:25 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B85oD-0000Wb-TX; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:04:45 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B85o5-0000WO-8c for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:04:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:04:37 -0800 Message-ID: <20040329230437.GT6569@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040329070110.GO6569@digitalkingdom.org> <20040329120955.GB16482@ccil.org> <20040329200059.GR6569@digitalkingdom.org> <20040329222254.GJ8898@skunk.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040329222254.GJ8898@skunk.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7394 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "pu" versus "pu ku" and LR(1) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21868 On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:22:54PM -0500, jcowan@reutershealth.com wrote: > Now in #3 and #4 the ordering is the same as in #1 and #2 > respectively, and presumably #3 = #1 and #4 = #2. However, #3 and #4 > use tenses on the selbri rather than free-floating tense+KU. If we > apply the selbri-NA vs. NAKU rules, then #3 = #2 because the tense > moves to the front of the prenex (outermost loop). *Ick*. OK, but no-one's sure what is actually supposed to be true in the current language WRT this issue. Hmmm. May not be relevant; I'm going to respond to your original post again. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui