From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Thu Mar 18 10:20:53 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44663 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2004 18:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2004 18:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2004 18:20:48 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B4281-0002h1-C1 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:20:25 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B427K-0002cu-T7; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:19:42 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41906.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B427C-0002cV-4s for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:19:34 -0800 Message-ID: <20040318181318.61107.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:13:18 PST Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:13:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20040318174017.GD11847@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7266 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: mimiklama X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21741 --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > OK, what about 'mimibilga'? Obviously 'mimibIlga' is handleable, but > without the stress indicated? It's the lack of stress indicators that > I'm really asking about. The space at the end of a brivla indicates the stress: it is always on the vowel before the last one. > I guess what I'm asking is "in absence of stress indicators, does > tosmabru still happen?". What about "miklamami"? You can't have absence of stress indicators. {mi klamami} is {mi klamAmi}, where klamami is a fu'ivla. > > Currently, what follows doesn't have to be a cluster as long as a > > cluster follows "soon" after - e.g. {mijimpe} is {mi jimpe} even > > though the cluster "mp" isn't immediately after "mi". > > Even without the stress? The way to mark stress is to leave a space after a brivla. You must always be able to tell where the stress falls, otherwise you can't be sure you are parsing correctly. Stress is an essential part of the Lojban morphology. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com