From xeubie@hotmail.com Sun Mar 07 15:35:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: xeubie@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64452 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.174] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:35:20 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <404B6B19.9060306@thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 638 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90 From: "la_okus" X-Originating-IP: 69.162.47.2 Subject: Re: translating the -ism's (xod) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=170795535 X-Yahoo-Profile: la_okus X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21666 la xod. cusku di'e > >krici [ kri ] believe > >x1 believes [without evidence/proof] belief/creed x2 (du'u) is true/ > >assumed about subject x3 > > > >Judging by this definition, krici seems closer to "faith" than > >"ideology". > > I assume you're referring to the "without evidence" part. That means > more that the evidence isn't relevant to the gismu itself, not that > there isn't any evidence at all. But many ideologies are religionistic. > And most religious people feel there is plenty of evidence behind their > practice. However, you might prefer instead veldjuno. Then how does it differ from birti?