From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Mar 18 01:56:50 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94467 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2004 09:56:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2004 09:56:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2004 09:56:49 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B3uGe-0007fd-5Q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:56:48 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B3uFf-0007ev-UF; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:55:47 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from postman4.arcor-online.net ([151.189.0.154] helo=postman.arcor.de) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.30) id 1B3uFU-0007el-2N for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:55:36 -0800 Received: from hamwpne1 (cou.ch [212.13.198.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by postman.arcor.de (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id i2I9tVD1018136 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:55:31 +0100 (MET) Organization: datenrevision GmbH & Co. OHG Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:55:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <40598020.18166.14409A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040318075720.GZ11847@digitalkingdom.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Mail message body X-archive-position: 7256 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pnewton@gmx.de X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: "Philip Newton" From: "Philip Newton" Reply-To: pnewton@gmx.de Subject: [lojban] Re: mimiklama X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21731 On 17 Mar 2004 at 23:57, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > jbofi'e successfully parses "mimiklama" as "mi mi klama". Rather than, say, what? > I'm guessing that that's not *really* OK; any opinions? I thought you could add any number of cmavo to the beginning of any brivla since the beginning of the brivla was unambiguously defined by the consonant cluster? So for me {mimiklama} = {mi mi klama} (and {mimikla} would be {mi mikla} with an unknown gismu *mikla). And otherwise tosmabru-words wouldn't exist, unless I'm misunderstanding something. > Is it reasonable to have a rule that says that a cmavo can be followed > by spaces, another cmavo, or a consonant cluster? Currently, what follows doesn't have to be a cluster as long as a cluster follows "soon" after - e.g. {mijimpe} is {mi jimpe} even though the cluster "mp" isn't immediately after "mi". Are you proposing to change this so that {mijimpe} is now unparseable or a fu'ivla? mu'o mi'e .filip. -- filip.niutyn. li te'o te'a ka'o bi'e pi'i pai su'i pa du li no