From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Mar 30 06:28:38 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92092 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2004 14:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2004 14:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao08.cox.net) (68.1.17.113) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2004 14:28:36 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.228.12.146]) by lakemtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with ESMTP id <20040330142834.ONAZ10550.lakemtao08.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:28:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040330092709.0306e6b0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: lojbab@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:31:28 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20040328181259.GC6569@digitalkingdom.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.1.17.113 From: Bob LeChevalier Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Onomatopoeia (err, sp?) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21877 At 10:12 AM 3/28/04 -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 12:48:06PM -0500, Craig wrote: > > >> Please point out that a cmavo is non-standard when you use it, and > > >> point people to the definition. > > > > It's bloody obvious it's not standard when you see three vowels... > >To whom? I had a discussion on IRC yesterday with someone who needed >cmavo defined three times in the space of less than an hour. Not to >insult that person, of course, just pointing out that 'obvious' is in >the eye of the beholder. Since the redbook indicates that all CVVVs are experimental, they are all inherently nonstandard. I don't know what any of them mean and until/unless I am actively using the language with someone else who wants to use them, I probably won't. When they are standard, then they will be in the cmavo list as well. Thus something is obviously not standard when it isn't in the cmavo list. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org