From sentto-44114-22072-1082887420-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 03:04:21 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n49.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.67.37]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BHgUe-0000NZ-Be for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:04:12 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22072-1082887420-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.160] by n49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2004 10:03:41 -0000 X-Sender: OneOfThree@gmx.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 82370 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2004 10:03:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2004 10:03:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2004 10:03:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27903 invoked by uid 65534); 25 Apr 2004 10:03:37 -0000 Received: from p5086D7A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO ONEOF) (80.134.215.162) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 25 Apr 2004 12:03:37 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3159272 Message-ID: <001f01c42aa4$704e4f80$fe7aa8c0@ONEOF> To: References: <1082816537.133.83659.m12@yahoogroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 213.165.64.20 From: "Stefan \"1of3\" Koch" X-Yahoo-Profile: oneofthree2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:03:45 +0200 Subject: [lojban] Re: traji Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7578 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: OneOfThree@gmx.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge "Llambías" wrote: > I entered this definition for {traji} in jbovlaste: > > x1 zmadu fa'u mleca ro cmima be x4 be'o poi na du x1 > ku'o x2 do'e x3 noi ka zmadu fa'u mleca > I have two questions, one technical and one political. > > The technical question: Is the definition (mainly the > use of fa'u and do'e) understandable? I understand the "do'e" phrase but it is not very elegant. Why don't you use some "fi'o"? > The political question: Do we really want to conflate > "most" and "least" into the same word, especially given > that in actual use and in all compounds it is always > "most"? Is there any advantage at all in having > {traji be fi lo ka zmadu} and {traji be fi lo ka mleca} > instead of {traji} and {tolrai}? I don't really like way it is done. First of all in a way we have a brivla that can do so: "moi" ("pamoi" and "romoi" in this case). "moi" can even express all the values inbetween. So if we need "traji" at all (I'd say yes because it is useful for compounds) limit it to "most". mu'omi'e ctefan. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/