From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Fri Apr 16 05:36:01 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66716 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2004 12:36:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2004 12:36:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2004 12:36:01 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BESZX-0004eP-8K for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:35:55 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BESYt-00040U-7D; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:35:15 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41906.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BESYe-0003Vb-JI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:35:00 -0700 Message-ID: <20040416123428.6638.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:34:28 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:34:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200404160120.48080.phma@webjockey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7560 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: le finpe X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22033 --- Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 16 April 2004 00:27, sshiskom wrote: > > I translated a definition of "fish" from Korean to Lojban. > > > > le finpe cu danlu gi'e ponse le kamjybo'u gi'e xabju le djacu gi'e > > na'o ponse le fipfepri .e le fipybirka .e le fipypi'a > > > > Does this look good? How can I add it to jbovlaste? > > This isn't a definition; it's a statement about some particular fish. If you > changed it to {ro finpe cu danlu li'o}, that makes it a universal statement, > which is closer to a definition. I would use {lo finpe} here, understanding {lo} as the generic, ("a fish is an animal that...") distinct from {su'o lo finpe} which gives "at least one instance of fish". More on this here: But in this case it doesn't matter because as you say the definition in jbovlaste will look something like: > x1 danlu x2 gi'e te kamjybo'u ... mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html