From phma@webjockey.net Fri Apr 30 20:28:51 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51047 invoked from network); 1 May 2004 03:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2004 03:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2004 03:28:50 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2159E45DA; Sat, 1 May 2004 03:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:28:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20040430234418.78701.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> <200404302000.15455.phma@webjockey.net> In-Reply-To: <200404302000.15455.phma@webjockey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404302328.48107.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals is a *bad* idea. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22083 On Friday 30 April 2004 20:00, Pierre Abbat wrote: > There are fixed rules for breaking syllables between vowels, but AFAIK not > between consonants. Thus {tciuaua} is /tciu,AU,a/, but {baknrto} (some > animal mentioned in the food laws in Deuteronomy) could be /BA,knrto/ > (which is what valfendi does internally), /BAK,nr,to/ (which is how I > pronounce it), /BA,kn,rto/, autc. A related question is when are two words, differing in stress and/or syllabication, the same. If you say /spat,r,xa,PI,o/ and I say /spa,TRXA,pio/, we are nessecelery talking about the same kind of plant. But if we both say /UA,cin,tyn/, I might be talking about the city on the Potomac and you about the state in the Northwest, while we could say /pa,RIS/ and /PA,ris/ and be talking about the same city, or different cities. Are {paRIS} and {PAris} the same word? phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa