From cowan@ccil.org Mon Apr 12 11:38:53 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 57009 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2004 18:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Apr 2004 18:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2004 18:38:52 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BD6KZ-0000YB-00; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:38:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:38:51 -0400 To: Bob LeChevalier Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20040412183851.GL386@ccil.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040407072603.0336d170@pop.east.cox.net> <20040330055426.GD27631@ccil.org> <20040329070110.GO6569@digitalkingdom.org> <20040329120955.GB16482@ccil.org> <20040329231516.GU6569@digitalkingdom.org> <20040330055426.GD27631@ccil.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20040407072603.0336d170@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20040410151832.03608700@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040410151832.03608700@pop.east.cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 192.190.237.100 From: John Cowan Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Robin Confused (was Re: Re: "pu" versus "pu ku" and LR(1)) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=212516 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22005 Bob LeChevalier scripsit: > puze'a means "pu da ku ze'a de ku" appropriately places in the sentence > for some values of da and de. I thought you had explicitly defined > things this way in the red book. No, on the contrary. The Red Book defines tense+ku in terms of selbri tense, and puze'a has a unitary definition. We do not know if puze'aku is synonymous with puku ze'aku or not. > That's the game we played with PA, as I understand it, and now we have > debates over the meaning of some of those undefined strings. Yes, but that's better that a bunch of rules that are more complex than they are worth. IMHO, we made the right tradeoff for PA, the wrong one for tense. -- Do what you will, John Cowan this Life's a Fiction jcowan@reutershealth.com And is made up of http://www.reutershealth.com Contradiction. --William Blake http://www.ccil.org/~cowan