From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Apr 09 14:12:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32271 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2004 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BC3IT-0003Vr-8S for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:12:21 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BC3HH-0003SE-27; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:11:07 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BC3H7-0003Rv-IK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:10:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:10:57 -0700 Message-ID: <20040409211057.GV14789@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040409204942.GU14789@digitalkingdom.org> <20040409210438.40177.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040409210438.40177.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7523 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Official parser and "lo ni'a zu crino" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21997 On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:04:38PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > The point that you seem to be missing is that "lo broda joi lo > > brode" requires infinite lookahead only to insert the elidable > > terminators, i.e. to read it as "lo broda ku joi lo brode ku". > > That's what I thought. Actually, in that case it only requires 2 token lookahead. I haven't thought about the general case very much. > But then what does John mean when he says: > > > > > > > For one thing, human beings don't support infinite > > > > > > lookahead. But I am okay with accepting things like "le > > > > > > broda joi le brodi", since that is not truly an ambiguity > > How can he reject {le broda je le brode} on the grounds that humans > don't support infinite lookahead while in the same paragraph accept > {le broda joi le brode}? Isn't that self-contradictory? I don't think that he meant it that way, hence "For one thing". I'm fairly certain that I spoke for him in my long explanation, but he'll have to speak for himself. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rocki morsi