To: Pierre Abbat <phma@webjockey.net>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: the 17 tallest men
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Pierre Abbat scripsit:

> But Lojban has grammatical setness and massness, so we can say "The
> subset which, considered as a mass, is tallest among the 17-element
> subsets". Since the place structure of pazemei is "x1 is the mass of
> set x2 which has 17 members x3", {le clarai ke nanmu pazemei} refers
> to the mass and {le clarai ke nanmu te pazemei} to the individuals.

That works if we say (which is somewhat counterintuitive) that the
height of a mass of men is determined by totaling the heights of
the men inside the mass.

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