Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.106]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BJlBq-0000VU-EY for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:29:22 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22105-1083382131-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2004 03:28:51 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51047 invoked from network); 1 May 2004 03:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2004 03:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2004 03:28:50 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2159E45DA; Sat, 1 May 2004 03:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20040430234418.78701.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> <200404302000.15455.phma@webjockey.net> In-Reply-To: <200404302000.15455.phma@webjockey.net> Message-Id: <200404302328.48107.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:28:47 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals is a *bad* idea. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7613 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 1639 Lines: 40 On Friday 30 April 2004 20:00, Pierre Abbat wrote: > There are fixed rules for breaking syllables between vowels, but AFAIK not > between consonants. Thus {tciuaua} is /tciu,AU,a/, but {baknrto} (some > animal mentioned in the food laws in Deuteronomy) could be /BA,knrto/ > (which is what valfendi does internally), /BAK,nr,to/ (which is how I > pronounce it), /BA,kn,rto/, autc. A related question is when are two words, differing in stress and/or syllabication, the same. If you say /spat,r,xa,PI,o/ and I say /spa,TRXA,pio/, we are nessecelery talking about the same kind of plant. But if we both say /UA,cin,tyn/, I might be talking about the city on the Potomac and you about the state in the Northwest, while we could say /pa,RIS/ and /PA,ris/ and be talking about the same city, or different cities. Are {paRIS} and {PAris} the same word? phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/