From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Apr 06 14:56:10 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30743 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2004 21:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2004 21:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2004 21:55:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BAyXd-0005oz-OX for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:55:33 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BAyWq-0005oQ-QN; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:54:44 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41901.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BAyWi-0005o8-JN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:54:36 -0700 Message-ID: <20040406215404.47239.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:54:04 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:54:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20040406213137.GR5197@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7462 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: Opinions on "mi viska le sa .i mi cusku zo .djan." X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21928 --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:28:03PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > {zei} makes lujvo, not the same thing. > > \/\/hatever. la mikce me la jivagos me'u, then. What, this comes up in > everyday speech for you? (You usually won't need {me'u} there.) Modification of names with brivla I would class as everyday speech, yes. > > But the main advantage is the reduction in useless proliferation of > > selma'o. > > Not useless; it's already been shown that the proliferation allows > eliding of a syllable in a very, very common case, which seems important > to me. To me it is better if you just have to learn one pattern (LE BRIVLA CU BRIVLA) instead of (LE/LA BRIVLA CU BRIVLA) and (LA CMENE BRIVLA), even at the expense of that {cu}, but that's just me. I suspect that the possibility of {LA CMENE BRIVLA} existing is part of what makes the common error {LE BRIVLA BRIVLA} so frequent. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/