From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 07 11:33:46 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 19853 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2004 17:51:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2004 17:51:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2004 17:51:57 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BBHDF-000721-Uv for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:51:45 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBHCS-0006ur-W8; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:50:57 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BBHC8-0006uU-61 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:50:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:50:36 -0700 Message-ID: <20040407175036.GA5197@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040407050022.GA58395@allusion.net> <20040407121746.53552.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040407121746.53552.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7485 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: CMENE=BRIVLA (was Re: Opinions on "mi viska le sa .i mi cusku zo .djan.") X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21961 On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 05:17:46AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > --- Jordan DeLong wrote: > > The extra 3 syllables in that sentence are certainly going to be > > more than paid for by all the elided {cu} in the rest of whatever > > text/conversation is going on. > > But I'm not saying putting CMENE in BRIVLA will save you syllables. > It will just make the grammar simpler. I, for one, have no concern at all about the simplicity of the grammar as long as it is well-formalized. But then, I am probably much too deep into the trees to see the forest. > Another place where it would require an extra ku is in > {la alis joi mi}. Robin, will your parser be capable of > dealing with {le broda joi mi}? Of course. Any wart that can be attributed to LR(1) limitations should not exist in my parser, that was sort of the point. It already does, in fact, handle "le broda joi mi brode", and in the right way: psumti2$Star1$1: /dev/stdin:1,9: joi mi brode pjoikEk$1: /dev/stdin:1,9: joi mi brode psumti3$1: /dev/stdin:1,13: mi brode -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rocki morsi