From a.rosta@v21.me.uk Thu Apr 08 04:48:02 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@v21.me.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75015 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 11:48:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Apr 2004 11:48:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.v21.co.uk) (62.41.128.11) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 11:48:00 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([217.140.37.41]) by kaliber.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i38Blp308272 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c41d5f$59496f60$42e1fea9@oemcomputer> To: References: <20040407033605.31989.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> <016d01c41ca2$bce943a0$a2e1fea9@oemcomputer> <20040407235223.GB66109@allusion.net> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:43:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 62.41.128.11 From: "And Rosta" Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Opinions on "mi viska le sa .i mi cusku zo .djan." X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=175222075 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21971 > So I suppose you could use {du}? {ro du be su'o la djan.} is > everything equal to one of the johns. or just "la djan" (= ro la djan) in standard pre-BF Lojban. > Probably the most explicit way to say "every john that I know", > without the ambiguity in xorxes' suggested {ro la djan.}: > > ro cmima be la'i djan. ku poi mi sanji ke'a cu xabju le merko You need "ro se cmene be zo djan", not "la'i djan", if anybody called 'John' counts as a candidate referent. --And.