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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@webjockey.net>
Subject: Re: [lojban] "herd" and such?
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On Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:24, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> We've passed my level of expertise.  Help, please.
>
> -Robin
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.a=
r>
> -----
>
> From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>
> To: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
>
> --- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > > What selbri would you use with ni'e? Something meaning "x1 is a herd
> > > of x2"?
> >
> > li ni'e bakni cu klama, IIRC.  It's in the red book somewhere.
>
> I can't find it. All I can find wrt to ni'e is:
>
> ---------------
> The cmavo ``ni'e'' makes a selbri into an operand. The x1 place
> of the selbri generally represents a number, and therefore is
> often a ``ni'' abstraction, since ``ni'' abstractions represent
> numbers. The ``ni'e'' makes that number available as a mekso
> operand. A common application is to make equations relating
> pure dimensions:
>
>
> 18.2)    li ni'e ni clani [te'u] pi'i
>         ni'e ni ganra [te'u] pi'i
>         ni'e ni condi te'u
>         du li ni'e ni canlu
>     the-number quantity-of length times
>         quantity-of width times
>         quantity-of depth
>         equals the-number quantity-of volume.
>     Length ? Width ? Depth =3D Volume
> -----------------
>
> which wouldn't seem to be the same thing, since cows
> are not numbers.
>
> Is {li ni'e bakni cu klama} meant to be the same as
> {lo bakni cu klama}? How does {ni'e} introduce the
> notion of "herd"? Is {li ni'e broda} in general
> a collective of broda?
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----

AFAICT that means "The number cow comes", that is, a number comes, and the=
=20
number is somehow equal to a cow. Neither of those makes sense.

You're probably thinking of {mo'e}. mo'e lo'e girzu ve'o bakni cu klama.

phma
--=20
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa