From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Apr 02 16:20:30 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 45247 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2004 22:17:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Apr 2004 22:17:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2004 22:17:50 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B9Wyz-0001n1-3T for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:17:49 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B9Wy7-0001ly-43; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:16:55 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B9Wxw-0001lp-DE for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:16:44 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:16:44 -0800 Message-ID: <20040402221644.GA6436@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040330101942.030a6df0@pop.east.cox.net> <20040330181827.71224.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040330181827.71224.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7421 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Occam's Razor X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21896 In response to this whole thread, having not read it thoroughly yet, let me just say that I'm really looking forward to the BPFK doing selma'o NA. [/sarcasm] -Robin On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:18:27AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > la lojbab cusku di'e > > > The classic example of tense-ke before a gek is in the brochure translation > > of Occam's razor. > > The brochure has: > > > As an example of Lojban, Occam's Razor ("The simplest > > explanation is usually the best.") may be translated: > > > > roda poi velciksi ku'o so'eroi ke ganai sampyrai gi xagrai > > All somethings-which-are-explanations mostly-are > > (if superlatively-simple then superlatively-good). > > Isn't this backwards? Shouldn't it rather be: > > so'eroiku ro velciksi ganai sampyrai gi xagrai > In most cases, each explanation is if simplest then best. > In most cases, the simplest explanation is the best. > > Otherwise, instead of considering for most cases all explanations, > we are considering for each explanation, most times where it may > apply? > > mu'o mi'e xorxes -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui