From sentto-44114-22115-1083439400-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat May 01 12:24:00 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 01 May 2004 12:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.92]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BK05Y-0003PN-It for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 01 May 2004 12:23:52 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22115-1083439400-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.195] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2004 19:23:20 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 67366 invoked from network); 1 May 2004 19:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2004 19:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2004 19:23:19 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E17074B91; Sat, 1 May 2004 19:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20040501075819.GL14939@digitalkingdom.org> <20040501134327.85085.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> <20040501171416.GN14939@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20040501171416.GN14939@digitalkingdom.org> Message-Id: <200405011522.23069.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:22:22 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: zei + zoi ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7623 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Saturday 01 May 2004 13:14, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > a. If the Lojban word "zoi" (selma'o ZOI) is identified, take the > following Lojban word (which should be end delimited with a pause > for separation from the following non-Lojban text) as an opening > delimiter. > > To interpret it as you're suggesting requires that "i" be eaten without > a following pause delimiter. Whether that matters in this case I'm not > sure, but it certainly violates grammar.300. As I read it, it doesn't. The rule doesn't say that the following Lojban word must have a pause after it, it just says that it should. In this case, {i} is identifiable as a word because the following {bu} has a pause after it and {ibu} is uniquely lexable as two words. In {zoi ka hitmamzer. ka}, where the pauses before the foreign word are omitted, the lexer runs into the forbidden consonant pair not having decided that {ka} is a separate word, so the ZOI rule can't be applied. phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/