From sentto-44114-22257-1084225259-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon May 10 14:41:37 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 May 2004 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.66]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BNIWg-00018U-JV for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 14:41:30 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22257-1084225259-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.29] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2004 21:40:59 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29154 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 21:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 21:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 21:40:57 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 450B84B9B; Mon, 10 May 2004 21:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20040510210607.60915.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040510210607.60915.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <200405101739.55279.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:39:54 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: loglan/lojban masses/sets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 7772 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Monday 10 May 2004 17:06, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: > It is not {ro lo finpe cu tolcitmau ro lo mabru}, so if "lea" > was {ro lo} at some point it was not that here. > > I would go with {lo finpe cu tolcitnau lo mabru}, > "fish is older than mammal". That means "There is a fish that is older than a mammal", which is true, but not what is meant. What is meant is that fish were created before mammals. So I would say {lo'e se finpe cu tolcitmau lo'e se mabru}, where {lo'e se } refers to the taxon containing all and nothing else (in some cases there is no such thing, e.g. jesymabru). phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/