From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 10 09:29:13 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51797 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 16:29:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 16:29:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 16:29:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNDeG-0003hH-TJ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 May 2004 09:29:01 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BNDdc-0003ge-O3; Mon, 10 May 2004 09:28:20 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 May 2004 09:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNDdP-0003gR-Nh for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 09:28:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:28:07 -0700 Message-ID: <20040510162807.GX5570@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040509174041.GJ5570@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20040510073626.0334dba0@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040510073626.0334dba0@pop.east.cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7741 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: jbovlaste lujvo definitions -- opinions wanted. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22204 On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 07:38:24AM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > At 06:30 PM 5/9/04 -0700, Jorge "Llamb?as" wrote: > >--- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > Before changing the help and asking people to change their > > > definitions, I'd like to see what people on the list think. Do > > > you prefer one over the other? If you prefer the second form, > > > should "x_1" always be used, or the first letter of the lujvo, or > > > a series of letters representing the lujvo ("bd_1" in the case of > > > ba'urdu'u) ? > > > >My preference is to only use x_1, x_2, etc. The other info is useful > >to understand how the lujvo was constructed, but it doesn't really > >add anything to the understanding of the lujvo itself. For the final > >presentation, I think only x's is best. Now, jbovlaste is being used > >not just for presentation, but also for judging and voting on > >definitions, and for that purpose seeing how the lujvo was > >constructed might be helpful. > > This suggests that it might be ideal to have the display program hide > that information in look-up mode, but not in editing/voting mode > (assuming that the two modes are easily distinguishable) Editing is distinct from viewing and voting, which are the same mode. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi