From yahoo@xahlee.org Fri May 21 22:58:54 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: xah@xahlee.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8643 invoked from network); 22 May 2004 05:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2004 05:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xahlee.org) (208.186.130.4) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2004 05:58:54 -0000 Received: (from xah@localhost) by xahlee.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i4M5wle20455; Sat, 22 May 2004 01:58:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:58:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200405220558.i4M5wle20455@xahlee.org> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com, xah@xahlee.org X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.186.130.4 X-eGroups-From: "xahlee.org" From: "xahlee.org" Subject: regular polyhedrons X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=157844469 X-Yahoo-Profile: p0lyglut X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22410 a friend wanted to know how to say "great dodecahedron" in lojban. So, how does one say the five regular solids? tetrahedron cube/hexahedron octahedron dodecahedron icosahedron and then, the various variations: truncated, stellated ... etc. Is there a systematic treatment somewhere? thanks. Xah xah@xahlee.org http://xahlee.org/lojban/valsi_dikni.html --------- here's the message my friend wrote: I'm looking for the Lojban for "great dodecahedron". Any ideas? I don't know much about Lojban, but I've managed to piece together the following, possibly incorrect / inelegant constructions: tetrahedron - kubli fi vo cube - kubli octahedron - kubli fi bi dodecahedron - kubli fi pare icosahedron - kubli fi reno These constructions seem simpler than "kubli ci boi ..." and "kubli zo'e ...". Perhaps there is something even simpler? Of course, keeping up this approach produces ambiguous names / descriptions of the remaining four regular polyhedra. Any comments? Any ideas on who else might have ideas? Two possibilities I've thought of that won't help: (in the 3d case) adding sumti for lower-dimensional totals (faces, then edges, then vertices) and adding a sumti for # of faces around an edge. Should additional words be used to describe the shape? Should a new word be introduced for describing polyhedra in more detail? (e.g. based on Wythoff symbol)