From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri May 14 09:50:30 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24096 invoked from network); 14 May 2004 16:50:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2004 16:50:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2004 16:50:30 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BOft4-00074e-59 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 14 May 2004 09:50:18 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOfsQ-000741-T3; Fri, 14 May 2004 09:49:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 14 May 2004 09:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.167.170.152] (helo=bowl.fysh.org ident=mail) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.32) id 1BOfsG-00073o-FI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 09:49:28 -0700 Received: from zefram by bowl.fysh.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOfsB-0005sT-00; Fri, 14 May 2004 17:49:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: <20040514164923.GA21946@fysh.org> References: <20040513183600.GJ4461@digitalkingdom.org> <20040514003615.GQ4461@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 7850 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Zefram From: Zefram Reply-To: zefram@fysh.org Subject: [lojban] Re: y: what is it good for? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22313 Adam D. Lopresto wrote: >I almost wish ybu weren't, and were replaced with something like pensi bu, That would indeed relieve some of the pressure on "y", opening up some nice options. It's an appealing idea. But I think it's better to keep "ybu" valid, by making it a new type of cmavo if necessary. -zefram