From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Sun May 16 06:39:35 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33033 invoked from network); 16 May 2004 13:39:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2004 13:39:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2004 13:39:34 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BPLrO-00086m-9H for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 16 May 2004 06:39:22 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPLqk-000868-QQ; Sun, 16 May 2004 06:38:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 16 May 2004 06:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPLqR-000858-5V for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 06:38:23 -0700 Message-ID: <20040516133752.62907.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.43.213.200] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 May 2004 06:37:52 PDT Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 06:37:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <40A70D06.8040305@thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7879 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: .iseca'obo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22342 --- xod wrote: > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >Tell me what "se ca'o" means, and I'll see what I can do to answer your > >question. > > > >Hint: it doesn't mean anything; ca'o has no places, and thus can't take > >SE. > > The effective argument would be "ca'o is symmetrical, and therefore > flipping it with se does nothing". ju has no places, yet we use seju. {ca'o} is not exactly symmetrical in my view, but even if it was, the rest of the ZAhOs are not, so we could ask about {iseba'obo}, {isepu'obo}, etc. Also, {seje}, {seja}, {sejo} are grammatical, even though {je}, {ja} {jo} are symmetrical. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/