From lojbab@lojban.org Mon May 10 04:39:46 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28783 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 11:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 11:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakermmtao04.cox.net) (68.230.240.35) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 11:39:45 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.228.12.146]) by lakermmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040510113939.UEAK19546.lakermmtao04.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 07:39:39 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040510073626.0334dba0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: lojbab@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:38:24 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20040510013047.38537.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040509174041.GJ5570@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.230.240.35 From: Bob LeChevalier Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: jbovlaste lujvo definitions -- opinions wanted. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22198 At 06:30 PM 5/9/04 -0700, Jorge "Llamb=EDas" wrote: >--- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Before changing the help and asking people to change their definitions, > > I'd like to see what people on the list think. Do you prefer one over > > the other? If you prefer the second form, should "x_1" always be used, > > or the first letter of the lujvo, or a series of letters representing > > the lujvo ("bd_1" in the case of ba'urdu'u) ? > >My preference is to only use x_1, x_2, etc. The other info >is useful to understand how the lujvo was constructed, but >it doesn't really add anything to the understanding of the >lujvo itself. For the final presentation, I think only x's >is best. Now, jbovlaste is being used not just for >presentation, but also for judging and voting on definitions, >and for that purpose seeing how the lujvo was constructed >might be helpful. This suggests that it might be ideal to have the display program hide that= =20 information in look-up mode, but not in editing/voting mode (assuming that= =20 the two modes are easily distinguishable) lojbab --=20 lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org