From phma@webjockey.net Thu May 13 14:04:39 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 85837 invoked from network); 13 May 2004 21:04:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2004 21:04:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2004 21:04:35 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 01DB74B9F; Thu, 13 May 2004 21:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:03:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20040513183600.GJ4461@digitalkingdom.org> <20040513190206.82768.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> <20040513194208.GD16333@fysh.org> In-Reply-To: <20040513194208.GD16333@fysh.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200405131703.51434.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: y: what is it good for? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22262 On Thursday 13 May 2004 15:42, Zefram wrote: > Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > >Would it be possible to make a distinction between > >the lerfu {.ybu}, and {.y. bu} a hesitation before > >a {bu} that attaches to whatever came before? > > Ah, another issue I'd been meaning to ask about: I understand that a > pause is mandatory after the word "y", which would require "ybu" to be > pronounced ".y.bu", but I never see the pause marked between these words. > What's going on? According to the word lexing algorithm as I've implemented it, a pause is required between a word of the form Cy and a following word containing CCV or CVV. The pause doesn't have to be immediately after Cy, e.g. {kybu.moi}. No pause is required between the word {y} and such a following word. Sometimes the algorithm lexes Cy successfully even without the pause, e.g. {kybuladjan}. phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa