From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 10 11:48:56 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46097 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 18:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 18:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 18:48:55 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNFpH-0005ur-2h for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 May 2004 11:48:31 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BNFof-0005rz-Np; Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47:53 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNFoV-0005rn-Iw for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:47:43 -0700 Message-ID: <20040510184743.GE5570@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040510175516.GC5570@digitalkingdom.org> <20040510184208.99162.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040510184208.99162.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7749 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: My parser, SI, SA, and ZOI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22211 On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 11:42:08AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > BTW, what does your parser do with {zei zei da} at the beginning of > text? tanruUnit=( tanruUnit1=( tanruUnit2=( anyWord=( zei ) spacingNoAbsorbOpt=( ) PARSERparen3=( ZEI=( zei ) anyWord=( da ) spacingNoAbsorbOpt=( ) ) absorbIndicators=() ) In other words, it creates a lujvo that means "zei type-of da". Which is what I think a human would expect. > > > {da zei de bu} is legal: first {da zei de} delivers BRIVLA, and > > > then {BRIVLA BU} delivers BY. > > > > Good point, but not terribly helpful for the ZO + ZEI case that I > > can see. > > At least it shows that "word" is a flexible concept in these > definitions. Oh, yeah. Good point. > In {zo da si de}, {zo da bu}, {zo da zei de}, we have zo and something > else fighting over the same word, one pulling from the left and the > other from the right. We just have to define which one has priority, > and the other one should act on what remains. I don't see any reason to over-ride grammar.300 on that point: ZO has higher priority. But then we're back to whether or not SI eats more than one word, which grammar.300 says it does not. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi