From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed May 05 06:09:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 86996 invoked from network); 5 May 2004 13:09:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2004 13:09:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2004 13:09:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BLM6F-0004Ks-Gw for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:06:11 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BLM5Y-0004K1-E9; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:05:28 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 May 2004 06:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.167.169.36] (helo=ytterbium.corpex.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BLM5N-0004Jq-K0 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:05:17 -0700 Received: from zefram by ytterbium.corpex.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BLM5M-0002vp-00 for ; Wed, 05 May 2004 13:05:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 13:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: <20040501125134.GA1255@fysh.org> References: <20040430224308.GD14939@digitalkingdom.org> <20040430234418.78701.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040430234418.78701.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 7651 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Zefram From: Zefram Reply-To: zefram@fysh.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals is a *bad* idea. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22119 Jorge Llamb?as wrote: >> > Capitalizing the whole syllable doesn't look very nice anyway, >> >> In your opinion. > >In my opinion it looks horrible. I wonder if anyone really thinks >it looks very nice. I have a weak preference for capitalising the vowel alone over capitalising the whole syllable. Actually, I think both schemes look quite awful, in addition to being horribly wasteful of characters. We've got a whole extra 23 (or 5) letterals for a single purpose, namely indicating stress on a syllable, which is only rarely required at all. I'd much prefer an orthography using a single extra mark (say, "^") to indicate stress where necessary, just as we have a single extra mark (",") to indicate syllable breaks. -zefram