From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun May 30 17:00:17 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96614 invoked from network); 31 May 2004 00:00:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 May 2004 00:00:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 May 2004 00:00:16 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BUaDu-0000o7-Fb for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 30 May 2004 17:00:14 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BUaDK-0000mZ-FS; Sun, 30 May 2004 16:59:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 30 May 2004 16:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BUaD9-0000mM-F2 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 30 May 2004 16:59:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 16:59:27 -0700 Message-ID: <20040530235927.GZ818@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040530184511.GA21387@mit.edu> <002701c44695$973c4f40$543a0751@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002701c44695$973c4f40$543a0751@oemcomputer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 8014 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Forget XS, let's go back to XS. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22469 On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 11:28:43PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > Rob: > > There was a point where I thought I understood XS, and why it > > wouldn't break anything anywhere. Judging from what xorxes is > > claiming about XS in the thread between him and pycyn, it's past > > that now. > [...] > > Then, all we need is a different intensional article. I'll call it > > {lo'e} for now, especially since I don't see why {lo'e} doesn't > > work. > [...] > > So, basically, I'm re-proposing what I thought was XS. Any comments? > > I don't have time to participate (which gives you licence to ignore > this), but I urge you to hear xorxes out. XS was a zillion times > better than any other scheme ever mooted (at least up until the end of > 2003 when I tuned out), and it really did make everything sayable > while making virtually no undoing of anything baselined. I am here > referring to the old XS as documented by me & xorxes -- by the sounds > of things (this exchange between pc & xorxes must be taking place in a > forum I'm not reading) It is indeed. http://www.lojban.org/tiki//tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=454&topics_threshold=0&topics_offset=1&topics_sort_mode=commentDate_desc&topics_find=&forumId=1 Your help would be appreciated; xorxes seems to be having trouble explaining things in a way that people get. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi