From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 10 13:02:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69014 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 20:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 20:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 20:02:22 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNGyf-0007QK-UR for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 May 2004 13:02:18 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BNGy5-0007Ja-Lt; Mon, 10 May 2004 13:01:41 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 May 2004 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNGxu-0007JF-52 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 13:01:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:01:30 -0700 Message-ID: <20040510200130.GN5570@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040510000710.GA20485@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040510000710.GA20485@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7757 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: my new idea for onomato's X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22220 On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 08:07:10PM -0400, Rob Speer wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 11:22:27PM -0000, la_okus wrote: > > ok, I made a thread a while back about onomatopoeias. I've come up > > with a new idea for how a computer can parse them unambiguously: > > > > Define sa'ei as "everything following this cmavo is an onomatopoeia > > until it repeats". This allows you to make the word without regard > > to cmene rules. And onomatopoeias are usually found in repeated > > pairs anyway (especially japanese ones: gero-gero, ira-ira, gocha- > > gocha). > > > > Would this be parsable? sa'ei mumu? > > Not easily. This makes the language not at all context-free. More so than ZOI? How, exactly? I have no idea why ZOI isn't sufficient for this purpose, though. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi