From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Mon May 10 12:08:06 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31669 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 19:08:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 19:08:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 19:08:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BNG87-0006T2-Dw for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:07:59 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BNG7R-0006RG-Tt; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:07:18 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 May 2004 12:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41907.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BNG7G-0006QM-9A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:07:06 -0700 Message-ID: <20040510190631.22171.qmail@web41907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 May 2004 12:06:31 PDT Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:06:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20040510184743.GE5570@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7751 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: My parser, SI, SA, and ZOI X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22214 --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 11:42:08AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > {zei zei da} at the beginning of text? > In other words, it creates a lujvo that means "zei type-of da". > > Which is what I think a human would expect. Yes, except that it is a funny lujvo that can only appear at the beginning of a text. I suppose {zei bu} is also a BY? Again, it can only appear at the beginning of a text. > > In {zo da si de}, {zo da bu}, {zo da zei de}, we have zo and something > > else fighting over the same word, one pulling from the left and the > > other from the right. We just have to define which one has priority, > > and the other one should act on what remains. > > I don't see any reason to over-ride grammar.300 on that point: ZO has > higher priority. But then we're back to whether or not SI eats more > than one word, which grammar.300 says it does not. When zo fights with these words directly, it always wins: {zo si}, {zo bu}, {zo zei}, so I don't see any reason for it not to win when it fights with them over a third word. If {zo da} can be a single word for {bu} and for {zei} to grab, it can also be a word for {si}, why not? Call it a single quoted word. It is also possible to decide that when there is an intervening word, zo loses: so {zo (da si de)}. But then why not {zo (da bu)} and {zo (da zei de)}? I prefer zo to consistently have priority: {(zo da) si de}, {(zo da) bu} and {(zo da) zei de}. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover