From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu May 13 13:17:15 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33923 invoked from network); 13 May 2004 20:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2004 20:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2004 20:17:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BOMd0-0006aw-QC for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:16:27 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOMcF-0005en-KX; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:15:39 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 13 May 2004 13:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.167.170.152] (helo=bowl.fysh.org ident=mail) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.32) id 1BOMc3-0005TJ-QF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:15:28 -0700 Received: from zefram by bowl.fysh.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOMby-0001Mm-00; Thu, 13 May 2004 21:15:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 21:15:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20040513201522.GA4929@fysh.org> References: <20040513183600.GJ4461@digitalkingdom.org> <20040513190206.82768.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040513190206.82768.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 7797 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Zefram From: Zefram Reply-To: zefram@fysh.org Subject: [lojban] Re: y: what is it good for? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22260 Jorge Llamb?as wrote: >Would it be possible to make a distinction between >the lerfu {.ybu}, and {.y. bu} a hesitation before >a {bu} that attaches to whatever came before? Until now it is always legal to pause at any word break. If a pause is to become significant there then "ybu" must become a single word so that it is not permitted to pause in the middle of it. That doesn't introduce any ambiguity, but does complicate the morphology. I think I'd better do a proper analysis of the morphology, soon, before it gets any more complicated. -zefram