From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon May 31 10:15:09 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51669 invoked from network); 31 May 2004 17:15:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 May 2004 17:15:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 May 2004 17:15:08 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BUqN1-00077v-Oj for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 31 May 2004 10:14:43 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BUqMI-00076f-Vh; Mon, 31 May 2004 10:13:59 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 31 May 2004 10:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.32) id 1BUqM0-00076U-3x for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 31 May 2004 10:13:40 -0700 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i4VHDcSR021348 for ; Mon, 31 May 2004 13:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i4VHDc75006943 for ; Mon, 31 May 2004 13:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.208.0.57]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i4VHDbRg005077 for ; Mon, 31 May 2004 13:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BUqMJ-0007Cn-00 for ; Mon, 31 May 2004 13:13:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:13:59 -0400 Message-ID: <20040531171359.GA27672@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040531161936.GB27251@mit.edu> <20040531162947.64786.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040531162947.64786.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-archive-position: 8024 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rspeer@MIT.EDU Subject: [lojban] Re: Forget XS, let's go back to XS. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22480 On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 09:29:47AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > I think XS is a great proposal being explained really badly. The emphasis > > should be on the fact that {lo} becomes the generic article. Don't say that > > it > > deals with past usage because those people were talking about Mr. Rabbit and > > didn't know it; say it deals with past usage because it's _generic_. > > There's no mention of Mr Rabbit in the proposed definition. I know. The definition is fine. If I had just read the definition carefully and not paid any attention to the discussion, I would never have thought there was anything wrong with XS lo. -- Rob Speer