From phma@webjockey.net Sat May 01 12:23:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 67366 invoked from network); 1 May 2004 19:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2004 19:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2004 19:23:19 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E17074B91; Sat, 1 May 2004 19:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:22:22 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20040501075819.GL14939@digitalkingdom.org> <20040501134327.85085.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> <20040501171416.GN14939@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20040501171416.GN14939@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200405011522.23069.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: zei + zoi ? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22093 On Saturday 01 May 2004 13:14, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > a. If the Lojban word "zoi" (selma'o ZOI) is identified, take the > following Lojban word (which should be end delimited with a pause > for separation from the following non-Lojban text) as an opening > delimiter. > > To interpret it as you're suggesting requires that "i" be eaten without > a following pause delimiter. Whether that matters in this case I'm not > sure, but it certainly violates grammar.300. As I read it, it doesn't. The rule doesn't say that the following Lojban word must have a pause after it, it just says that it should. In this case, {i} is identifiable as a word because the following {bu} has a pause after it and {ibu} is uniquely lexable as two words. In {zoi ka hitmamzer. ka}, where the pauses before the foreign word are omitted, the lexer runs into the forbidden consonant pair not having decided that {ka} is a separate word, so the ZOI rule can't be applied. phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa