Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 May 2004 04:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.64]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BN98r-0008NM-Ql for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 04:40:18 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22220-1084189186-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.29] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2004 11:39:46 -0000 X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28783 invoked from network); 10 May 2004 11:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 May 2004 11:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakermmtao04.cox.net) (68.230.240.35) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 11:39:45 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.228.12.146]) by lakermmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040510113939.UEAK19546.lakermmtao04.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 07:39:39 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040510073626.0334dba0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: lojbab@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20040510013047.38537.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040509174041.GJ5570@digitalkingdom.org> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 68.230.240.35 From: Bob LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:38:24 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: jbovlaste lujvo definitions -- opinions wanted. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 7735 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 2018 Lines: 51 At 06:30 PM 5/9/04 -0700, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: >--- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Before changing the help and asking people to change their definitions, > > I'd like to see what people on the list think. Do you prefer one over > > the other? If you prefer the second form, should "x_1" always be used, > > or the first letter of the lujvo, or a series of letters representing > > the lujvo ("bd_1" in the case of ba'urdu'u) ? > >My preference is to only use x_1, x_2, etc. The other info >is useful to understand how the lujvo was constructed, but >it doesn't really add anything to the understanding of the >lujvo itself. For the final presentation, I think only x's >is best. Now, jbovlaste is being used not just for >presentation, but also for judging and voting on definitions, >and for that purpose seeing how the lujvo was constructed >might be helpful. This suggests that it might be ideal to have the display program hide that information in look-up mode, but not in editing/voting mode (assuming that the two modes are easily distinguishable) lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/