Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 21 May 2004 22:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.66]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRPXa-0006Xt-C1 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:59:26 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22432-1085205535-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.27] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2004 05:58:55 -0000 X-Sender: xah@xahlee.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8643 invoked from network); 22 May 2004 05:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 May 2004 05:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xahlee.org) (208.186.130.4) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 May 2004 05:58:54 -0000 Received: (from xah@localhost) by xahlee.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i4M5wle20455; Sat, 22 May 2004 01:58:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200405220558.i4M5wle20455@xahlee.org> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com, xah@xahlee.org X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.186.130.4 X-eGroups-From: "xahlee.org" From: "xahlee.org" X-Yahoo-Profile: p0lyglut MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 01:58:47 -0400 Subject: [lojban] regular polyhedrons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 7947 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yahoo@xahlee.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 2032 Lines: 58 a friend wanted to know how to say "great dodecahedron" in lojban. So, how does one say the five regular solids? tetrahedron cube/hexahedron octahedron dodecahedron icosahedron and then, the various variations: truncated, stellated ... etc. Is there a systematic treatment somewhere? thanks. Xah xah@xahlee.org http://xahlee.org/lojban/valsi_dikni.html --------- here's the message my friend wrote: I'm looking for the Lojban for "great dodecahedron". Any ideas? I don't know much about Lojban, but I've managed to piece together the following, possibly incorrect / inelegant constructions: tetrahedron - kubli fi vo cube - kubli octahedron - kubli fi bi dodecahedron - kubli fi pare icosahedron - kubli fi reno These constructions seem simpler than "kubli ci boi ..." and "kubli zo'e ...". Perhaps there is something even simpler? Of course, keeping up this approach produces ambiguous names / descriptions of the remaining four regular polyhedra. Any comments? Any ideas on who else might have ideas? Two possibilities I've thought of that won't help: (in the 3d case) adding sumti for lower-dimensional totals (faces, then edges, then vertices) and adding a sumti for # of faces around an edge. Should additional words be used to describe the shape? Should a new word be introduced for describing polyhedra in more detail? (e.g. based on Wythoff symbol) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/