From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed May 05 06:31:34 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4147 invoked from network); 5 May 2004 13:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2004 13:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2004 13:31:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BLMUk-0004hG-Kr for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:31:30 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BLMUO-0004gU-QR; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:31:08 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 May 2004 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.zoper.com ([199.232.160.28]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BLMUE-0004gL-54 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:30:58 -0700 Received: (qmail 89496 invoked by uid 1012); 5 May 2004 13:30:57 -0000 Received: from mail@raphael.poss.name by beta.zettai.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.70. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(213.41.129.7):. Processed in 0.313836 secs); 05 May 2004 13:30:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imladris.raphael.poss.name) (mail@raphael.poss.name@213.41.129.7) by 0 with SMTP; 5 May 2004 13:30:56 -0000 References: <20040430222316.GC14939@digitalkingdom.org> <20040430224001.58073.qmail@web41907.mail.yahoo.com> <20040430224308.GD14939@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:30:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20040430224308.GD14939@digitalkingdom.org> (Robin Lee Powell's message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:43:08 -0700") Message-ID: <878yg7knlf.fsf@raphael.poss.name> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7654 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojban@raphael.poss.name X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: lojban@raphael.poss.name (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rapha=EBl_Poss?=) From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@raphael.poss.name Subject: [lojban] Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals is a *bad* idea. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22122 Robin Lee Powell writes: >> but if you use them in names only for the accented vowel then there >> shouldn't be any conflict. > > That's nice. Just my 2¢ : IIRC my phonetics courses, when you speak the stress appears on consonants, not vowels. More precisely, the stress is indicated by a louder stream of air in the mouth while the consonant is pronounced, usually by closing the appropriate parts of the mouth more firmly or narrowing the open parts. The difference of intensity in the vocalisation of syllabes (the vowels) during stress is much less noticeable. This is why, IMHO, stress in Lojban should more logically be indicated by capitalizing the consonants alone, not the vowels. mi DJica le nu Cilre la loJban. -- . . . _ - --------\ : Raphaël Poss JID Elrond@jabber.dk · ICQ 1757157 | | EPITA CSI 2003 · http://raphael.poss.name · GnuPG fp ...3b72e72b : \------ - _ . . '