From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun May 16 12:12:48 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12797 invoked from network); 16 May 2004 19:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 May 2004 19:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 May 2004 19:12:48 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BPR40-0003QK-2U for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:12:44 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPR3D-0003PO-Tb; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:11:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 16 May 2004 12:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BPR30-0003Oz-6o for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:11:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:11:42 -0700 Message-ID: <20040516191142.GI6978@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040516013013.GD6978@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20040516014921.88263.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040516014921.88263.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7888 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: y: what is it good for? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22351 On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 06:49:21PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > It was doing something that was irredeemably wrong; this has been > > fixed. There is now an explicit special case in si-clause for "Y BU > > SI SI", resulting in: > > > > KOhA=( da y bu si si ) > > What about {zo y bu si si}? zo y bu is invalid, for reasons previously discussed. Anything of the form "zo X bu" is invalid. Furthermore, zo y bu si si leaves a zo with nothing in it, so it's guaranteed not to work. However, "zo y bu si si da" comes out as "ZO=( zo y bu si si ) zoClause=( da )". > Every "explicit special case" you add to the grammar is a special > rule we have to learn. ". Sorry, but there's no way I can get rid of ybu without the mandate of the BPFK, as you are well aware. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi