From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Sat May 01 07:15:02 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 88862 invoked from network); 1 May 2004 14:15:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2004 14:15:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2004 14:15:01 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BJvFs-0000PG-3k for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 01 May 2004 07:14:12 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BJvFG-00082t-Fz; Sat, 01 May 2004 07:13:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 01 May 2004 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41905.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BJvF4-0007K1-GO for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 01 May 2004 07:13:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20040501141251.59007.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.6.22] by web41905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 May 2004 07:12:51 PDT Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 07:12:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040501073407.03b98d90@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7620 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals is a *bad* idea. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22090 --- Bob LeChevalier wrote: > There are. From the old morphology paper: [...] > >It is permissible to vary from these rules in Lojbanized names. For > >example, there are no definitive rules for syllabication of such cmene > >with consonant clusters longer than three, such as the English name > >armstrong, which we will analyze below. The close-comma is used to > >indicate variant syllabication both orthography. That is probably what I remembered. Then for the case we were discussing, irregularly stressed syllables in cmene, there are no strict rules. > >Is there any way to represent a triphthong, or is {uau} necessarily > >two syllables, either /ua,u/ or /u,au/? > > In Lojban, vowel groups pair from the left if possible, unless there is a > close-comma. So "uau" is "ua,u". However, I believe that later decision > when we tried to write the morphology algorithm said that use of > close-commas do not create a minimal pair, so "ua,u" and "u,au" are the > same word. So pronouncing {uau} as a single syllable is in theory not allowed, right? mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover