From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat May 01 10:15:06 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 88871 invoked from network); 1 May 2004 17:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2004 17:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2004 17:15:05 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BJy4s-0001wb-VR for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 01 May 2004 10:15:03 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BJy4I-0001w7-KB; Sat, 01 May 2004 10:14:26 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 01 May 2004 10:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BJy48-0001vv-QK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 01 May 2004 10:14:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:14:16 -0700 Message-ID: <20040501171416.GN14939@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040501075819.GL14939@digitalkingdom.org> <20040501134327.85085.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040501134327.85085.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7622 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: zei + zoi ? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22092 On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 06:43:27AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Both jbofie and the official parser accept > > > > le zoi ibu cgi-bin ibu zei samselpla > > That's right. {i bu} is not a word, so you have: > > {le zoi i bu cgi-bin i bu zei samselpla}, which means the > same as {le bu zei samselpla pe zoi i bu cgi-bin i}. > The preparser will deal first with zoi, then with zei > and only then with bu, if they had not been swallowed. Wait, *no*, that's wrong. a. If the Lojban word "zoi" (selma'o ZOI) is identified, take the following Lojban word (which should be end delimited with a pause for separation from the following non-Lojban text) as an opening delimiter. To interpret it as you're suggesting requires that "i" be eaten without a following pause delimiter. Whether that matters in this case I'm not sure, but it certainly violates grammar.300. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi