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John Cowan:
> It can't imagine anyone using "or vice versa" in a flat declarative
> sentence like "Fido bit Rover or vice versa": to say that is to admit
> an ignorance too profound for words. 

Google gives 556,000 hits for "or vice versa" compared with
1,080,000 for "and vice versa".

> I think that "or vice versa"
> is far more likely when in the scope of a negation (as here) or
> perhaps in a contrastive question ("Did Fido bite Rover, or [was it]
> vice versa?").

From a cursory look, lots of questions and word game headlines, 
like "Trouble in paradise (or vice versa)." 

Many generics, like "Converting UTM to Latitude and Longitude 
(Or Vice Versa)" where "and" also makes sense, depending on how 
you scope it.

Drive yourself - Sydney to Melbourne or vice versa.
Convert text to a table or vice versa
I walked the dog, or vice versa
Calling a JSP from a Servlet, or vice-versa, can be done using the
RequestDispatcher
from Aristotle: "When quarrels and complaints arise, it is when people
who are equal have unequal shares, or vice versa."

> I don't have the solution here, but I feel it has something to do
> with negation scope.

   not ( ... or vice versa) = (not ...) and vice versa.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




	
		
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