From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed Jun 23 07:51:29 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72629 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2004 14:51:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jun 2004 14:51:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2004 14:51:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1Bd955-0000x0-EY for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:50:32 -0700 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bd947-0000Xj-Un; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:49:32 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bd93J-0008UL-T6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: <20040623144811.57225.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:48:11 PDT Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:48:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 8144 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: Help with lojbanizing the black hole X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22591 Yann: > I'd like to suggest something for the "black hole" but, being only a white > belt lojbanist, I am unable to construct the following word with {jvinu} : > "that which is viewed as black from outside" (a definition that keeps the > useful observational information contained in "black hole" but that also > avoids the pitfalls of literal translation). That would be: zo'e noi ke'a se jvinu lo xekri lo bartu be ke'a A possible lujvo from that: barxekselji'u mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail