From jens.schicke@hvf-bs.net Fri Jul 30 09:19:28 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.37.51.119] (helo=hvf-bs.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bqa61-0003ed-5u for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:19:04 -0700 Received: from tau-ceti.homelinux.org (p508E621E.dip.t-dialin.net [80.142.98.30]) (authenticated) by hvf-bs.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6UGIhN09184 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:18:43 +0200 Received: from drahflow by tau-ceti.homelinux.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bqa4A-0000GE-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:17:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:17:06 +0200 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: jimpe - logic Message-ID: <20040730161706.GA987@hvf-bs.net> References: <140.2f8dbc85.2e3bc087@wmconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <140.2f8dbc85.2e3bc087@wmconnect.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i From: Jens-Wolfhard Schicke X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (Wertung=-94.587, benoetigt 6, autolearn=not spam, AWL 10.11, BAYES_00 -4.90, LOCAL_AUTH_RCVD -100.00, RCVD_IN_NJABL 0.10, RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10) X-MailScanner-From: jens.schicke@hvf-bs.net X-archive-position: 8362 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jens.schicke@hvf-bs.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:17:27AM -0400, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > That is *so* cool. But is the logic in the first example (section 4.1) > valid? It seems to be deducing a premise from a consequence, which I've always > thought was a big no-no. And then "artificial" in the title. A B "If A then B." f f t f t t t f f t t t So if we assume that "If A then B" is true, as jimpe does, the fact that B is false leaves only the possiblity of A being false likewise... One could however not deduce from the fact that B is true the fact that A is also true...