Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 97851 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2004 17:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jul 2004 17:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2004 17:52:31 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BqbYU-00059C-40 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:52:30 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BqbXr-00058C-Et; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:51:51 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.32) id 1BqbXg-00057j-2W for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:51:40 -0700 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i6UHorw8027041 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i6UG4cQG000792 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.208.0.57]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i6UG4bRg010662 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BqZs5-00013I-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20040730160437.GB3982@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040729215411.GA11429@nerd-xing.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i X-archive-position: 8364 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rspeer@MIT.EDU Subject: [lojban] Re: jimpe: Language Processing in Lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22785 Content-Length: 1015 Lines: 27 On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 09:38:13AM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > Also, I am personally curious about how you do Natural Language Generation > in Lojban. To be honest, we don't do much of it yet. We have some basic functions to turn semantic objects back into Lojban, but it ends up in a rather obtuse form with all the terminators in it (and if you have quantifiers, they're all in prenex form). So we don't actually get the output "ua la bab na crino" yet. We get something like "ua naku la bab [cu] na crino [vau]". But we have plenty of time to fix this. (Submitting a paper involves some amount of projection into the future, because we have to submit the paper for approval six weeks before the conference. If we're accepted, we get to revise the paper before the conference.) But if anyone has suggestions on how to determine which terminators are elidable (for example, how does Nora's random sentence generator do it?) that would be really helpful for the project. -- Rob Speer