From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Jul 24 01:13:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 76633 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2004 08:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jul 2004 08:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2004 08:13:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BoHef-0005Gb-Tk for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:13:18 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BoHe0-0005G4-SP; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:12:36 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.205] helo=mproxy.gmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BoHdp-0005Fv-Lf for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:12:25 -0700 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m68so36915rne for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.163.44 with SMTP id l44mr48526rne; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <537d06d004072401127fc47aad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:12:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: X-archive-position: 8318 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: philip.newton@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Philip Newton From: Philip Newton Reply-To: philip.newton@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Projects X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22741 On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:59:42 -0000, reverendzow wrote: > P.S. It seems that nearly anyone (regardless of L1) can > pronounce the a in Amer. "dad". Am I just confused again? Probably. Most Germans would pronounce it in such a way that you'd think they had said "debt", since the vowel sound doesn't occur in German and most substitute what's called "short e" in English. (And the final -t vs -d is due to German syllable-final consonant devoicing.) Cheers, -- Philip Newton