From xod@thestonecutters.net Fri Jul 23 19:38:54 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15967 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2004 02:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jul 2004 02:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2004 02:38:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BoCQw-0000RF-7f for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:38:46 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BoCQY-0000Nw-6S; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:38:22 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thestonecutters.net ([63.251.19.112] helo=chert.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BoCQO-0000Nd-1X for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:38:12 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (h-67-101-254-140.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net [67.101.254.140]) by chert.thestonecutters.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E723C148002 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41018691.8020605@thestonecutters.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:43:45 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-archive-position: 8309 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: xod Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net Subject: [lojban] [Fwd: Re: Projects] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22732 reverendzow writes, and I forward: --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, xod wrote: > reverendzow wrote: > > >What's a BPFK? I think such a change -could- happen, but to do so, > >the following would have to occur: Someone creates a new Lojban > >vocabulary that has major improvements over the current one (although > >this is not necessarily possible), then the existing (and relatively > >small as I understand it) Lojban community would need to be convinced > >that this new vocabulary was worth the work in switching. $0.02 > > > > > > > I'm imagining a goulash containing Esperantoid vocabulary (targetting > your preferred language group) and Lojbanic grammar. Do you expect this > would gain more traction than Esperanto, or would that level of success > satisfy you? Yeep! This is not the direction I want to go at all. The first thing to look into is the phonetic inventory - what sounds most people in the world can produce/distinguish, including computers' ability to recognize/distinguish these sounds. This would then be followed by a study of the most efficient methods of preventing vocal confusion (i.e., making word boundaries obvious), combined with a method of making the most commonly-used/useful words the shortest. Then we could generate the new vocabulary.