From jfm3@ouroboros-complex.org Tue Aug 03 22:04:46 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: jfm3@ouroboros-complex.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 82301 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2004 05:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Aug 2004 05:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2004 05:04:45 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.163] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2004 05:03:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 05:03:29 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 718 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.76 From: "jfm3jfm3jfm3" X-Originating-IP: 24.225.157.169 Subject: benefits of separation between semantics and grammar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=114600999 X-Yahoo-Profile: jfm3jfm3jfm3 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22792 Hello. .u'u I'm not ready to post in Lojban yet. I'm still in awe of it. Lojban has unambiguous grammar. That is, we need not correctly guess the meaning of an utterance to understand how the utterance parses. This is obviously useful when talking to machines, but the literature I've read so far suggests that the engineers of Lojban were more interested in unambiguous grammar because of its implications in light of the SWH. Is this still important to the Lojban community? Are there any Lojban speakers who can think quickly in Lojban? Does it make a difference? Are there other benefits to be reaped from unambiguous grammar, aside from talking to machines simply and thinking clearly? (jfm3)